7 comments on “The Nasty Party Thinks Only the Rich Should be Allowed to Marry Foreigners

  1. The populace want less immigration so you can hardly blame May for thinking up ways to bring that about.

    • No, and not only do I not blame her for that; I agree with that. But depriving British citizens of the right to marry whomever they choose and bring their spouse to live with them here is outrageous.

      Mrs May has presided over huge abuse of the immigration system. While she tries to take away the marriage rights of British people, other abuses go unchecked. These proposals are worthy of the BNP.

      • You appear to want the penny and the bun. You want immigration to be better controlled but then you want those controls not to be in the least effective. Apart from which I suggest this measure is directed towards Pakistani and Bangladeshi immigrants who have long been abusing the system. Personally I do not believe that piecemeal methods are the best way to deal with the immigration problem and do in fact believe that in the long run immigration will do more good than harm. However in the short to medium term I believe for the sake of cultural, social and economic damage limitation something needs to be done to control it. Like Nigel Sedgwick I believe it is the environment that needs to change so that it does not encourage economic and scrounger immigrants and that means harsh curbs on welfare and healthcare.

        • I absolutely do not “want the penny and the bun”. And regardless of whether this measure may be directed against Pakistani and Bangladeshi immigrants, it will catch everyone (apart from EU migrants) and there are of course genuine marriages involving people from those countries too!

          Immigration is indeed beneficial but there is a limit to how fast Britain can absorb people with different cultures. For that reason, immigration needs to be controlled. Mrs May has herself admitted that border controls have not been up to scratch, thus opening the door to illegal immigration. I personally suspect that is much more widespread than the Government acknowledges. There is also abuse of the asylum system (when did that stop being “political asylum” and start being just “asylum”?), the education route and the work visas route.

          Sorting out all that is hard work, though, so Mrs May has opted for a quick fix – that will cause quite a lot of pain and anguish for many innocent British citizens and will also, by the way, be open to legal challenge under British and “international” law.

          I do agree about tackling the root causes, which are more to do with the welfare state than anything.

          I have to declare an interest here. My wife is from Ukraine and we have been married ten years. Under these rules, she would have been barred from joining me in the UK. So you can understand why I despise Mrs May for these proposals. They are a disgrace to our country, and illustrate just how low it has sunk.

    • From where I am standing (ie my humble opinion) there is no complaint against immigration.

      However, there is a complaint that the current management of the welfare state encourages immigration purely or substantially to benefit from that welfare state.

      One solution is not to bias marriage but to remove most welfare benefits from those who are not British Citizens (and to more strictly time-limit others).

      In so far as this differentiation seems harsh, perhaps there should be careful reappraisal of the availability of many of those very welfare benefits, for citizens as well.

      Many more welfare benefits should be means tested: and one of the means (additionally) available to foreign citizens is to live in the country of their citizenship.

      Best regards

      • Most immigrants come here to work. Indeed, the general complaint is that “they take jobs from British people”. They wouldn’t be able to do that, of course, if the British people were properly educated and willing to do the jobs that are available.

        As far as removing welfare entitlements is concerned, that is already done when new immigrants (including spouses) arrive in the country. It is only when they apply for “indefinite leave to remain” that the entitlement to benefits starts. At the moment, that is after two years. Mrs May is proposing to increase that to five years – fair enough.

        But stopping people coming here simply because their spouses are not higher rate taxpayers stinks.

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